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    Re: Auto-tune

    Post by NotRich on Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:21 pm

    Furious D wrote:
    Cap'n Lee wrote:it's less used to mop up a bad recording, but more about giving it a weirder robotic sound.

    That's the thing though, it's overused on purpose to create an effect. Stuff like that Avril Lavigne song is pretty obviously not done on purpose.

    Yeah, but have you SEEN her without makeup?
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    Re: Auto-tune

    Post by lightowler on Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:22 pm

    no way no way

    i here you have a huge dong

    edit: damn it rich dont edit your posts like that, it spoiles my jokes
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    Post by Cap'n Lee on Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:26 pm

    did rich just throw another in-joke around like it was shawshank redemption; terrible! just like peeky eating flour
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    Re: Auto-tune

    Post by NotRich on Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:37 pm

    Did you not hear??

    In-jokes are the new black.
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    Re: Auto-tune

    Post by Cap'n Lee on Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:42 pm

    summers throws up in-jokes now?
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    Re: Auto-tune

    Post by The Amazing Fletch on Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:34 pm

    Oops, typo. Smile
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    Re: Auto-tune

    Post by elliemon on Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:22 pm

    back on topic..

    chris murray is perfect proof you can sing, not just a whole 3/4min song, but a full half hour+ set flawlessly. not even a slight glitch in his tone, let alone any flatness/sharpness in his pitch. a voice of velvet!! i'm not even sure who's point i'm trying to combat but you can never praise chris murray too much!! what a guy
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    Post by Cap'n Lee on Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:27 pm

    says ellie, known auto-tune cheater :p
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    Post by elliemon on Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:45 pm

    it didnt even choose to have auto-tune!! i dont think i'd use it now. i think i'd feel disappointed in myself. but i'm a much better singer as well now anyways
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    Re: Auto-tune

    Post by Furious D on Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:32 pm

    elliemon wrote:back on topic..

    chris murray is perfect proof you can sing, not just a whole 3/4min song, but a full half hour+ set flawlessly. not even a slight glitch in his tone, let alone any flatness/sharpness in his pitch. a voice of velvet!! i'm not even sure who's point i'm trying to combat but you can never praise chris murray too much!! what a guy

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    Post by Reel Big Moose on Tue Sep 15, 2009 1:30 am

    meoldyne is a really lovely thing. But the idea of autotune in punk just amsuses the crap out of me. Does'nt it kinda go against the whole ethos of it all? Would you really want joe strummer/lars frederickson/whoever to be pitch eprfect all the time??
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    Post by Parg on Tue Sep 15, 2009 1:34 am

    Melodyne sounds like a painkiller or a shady corporation that makes artificial intelligences and robots and whatnot.
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    Re: Auto-tune

    Post by Francis on Tue Sep 15, 2009 2:44 am

    chris murray's vocal parts are pretty much the simplest things in the world, though.
    his songs are just around chords I, IV & V, almost without exception.


    i think probably the most defencible thing about autotune is that if a vocalist is concentrating on singing something perfectly in tune, then they're likely not going to be able to sing the parts with the intensity/passion/whatever as if they were singing live (where there isn't the pressure of scrunity afterwards)

    i know definitely from experience that i've recorded takes which were slightly out of tune, but were a really good performance, and so it was easier to just slightly neaten up the tuning, than try and get a fresh recording with the same intensity and be perfectly in tune.





    p.s. with regards to summers' post on the first page - brass auto tune isn't use to simply replace tuning up the instruments!
    it's used because of the intonation between different brass/wind instruments, and also because with brass/wind the tuning of every single note is very much down to the player's embouchure (MOUTH) (and with trombone it's a whole world of difficulty), and therefore that makes layering brass parts perfectly in tune more difficult than layering several guitar parts.

    and you're a brass player, surely you should know this.

    done.
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    Re: Auto-tune

    Post by MangoSkeejykins on Tue Sep 15, 2009 3:35 am

    i don't really have tuning problems with my embouchure on ye olde tereomberone, never crossed my mind to be honest! sax though i'm still finding my way, being a bit sharp or flat

    i'd probably rather have my lines tweaked to be perfectly in tune than be proud of not using autotune but it sounding wank! though of course if someone sucks and needs to be auto-tuned loads they should be shot or something


    and old local band i heard auto-tuned malisma (sp?) into their singer's voice... results: not good


    what about general alterations? when my metal band recorded, the producer guy told us about a band where the drummer played so badly out of time he had to physically put all the bass and snare hits in the right places then sync up everything else (it actually worked though the band was crap so sounded terrible anyway)
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    Re: Auto-tune

    Post by tyrannosaurusben on Tue Sep 15, 2009 3:44 am

    Francis wrote:chris murray's vocal parts are pretty much the simplest things in the world, though.
    his songs are just around chords I, IV & V, almost without exception.


    i think probably the most defencible thing about autotune is that if a vocalist is concentrating on singing something perfectly in tune, then they're likely not going to be able to sing the parts with the intensity/passion/whatever as if they were singing live (where there isn't the pressure of scrunity afterwards)

    i know definitely from experience that i've recorded takes which were slightly out of tune, but were a really good performance, and so it was easier to just slightly neaten up the tuning, than try and get a fresh recording with the same intensity and be perfectly in tune.





    p.s. with regards to summers' post on the first page - brass auto tune isn't use to simply replace tuning up the instruments!
    it's used because of the intonation between different brass/wind instruments, and also because with brass/wind the tuning of every single note is very much down to the player's embouchure (MOUTH) (and with trombone it's a whole world of difficulty), and therefore that makes layering brass parts perfectly in tune more difficult than layering several guitar parts.

    and you're a brass player, surely you should know this.

    done.

    YESSSS.

    When you hear our new cd, you'll be amazed at how good simon has got... but theres a sneaky trick.

    not ashamed of autotune at all, call us sell outs and tell us we're not punk but a good recording is a good recording.
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    Post by Reel Big Moose on Tue Sep 15, 2009 4:39 am

    i think it boilds down to: if you can pull it off life then a bit of auto tune, specially on brass is no bad thing.
    If you cant do it live and your relying on the autotune then its a bad thing
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    Re: Auto-tune

    Post by tyrannosaurusben on Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:42 am

    I think thats just about it.

    but if you can't pull it off live, your auto tuning well come back to kick you in the aaaarse.
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    Re: Auto-tune

    Post by Cap'n Lee on Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:39 am

    Reel Big Moose wrote:meoldyne is a really lovely thing. But the idea of autotune in punk just amsuses the crap out of me. Does'nt it kinda go against the whole ethos of it all? Would you really want joe strummer/lars frederickson/whoever to be pitch eprfect any the time??

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    Re: Auto-tune

    Post by elliemon on Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:47 am

    yeah i agree with ben a moosey on those last two points.

    and i appreciate what was said about CM. i guess he doesnt move around a lot either unlike livelier ska/punk/rock whatever acts so that'll help him keep a smooth tone. but we still can't love that guy enough! his voice is almost supernatural! haha
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    Re: Auto-tune

    Post by NotRich on Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:53 am

    Parg wrote:Melodyne sounds like a painkiller or a shady corporation that makes artificial intelligences and robots and whatnot.

    Were you of the Perfect Dark generation??

    Perhaps it's Datadyne that you're thinking of...
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    Re: Auto-tune

    Post by Cap'n Lee on Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:59 am

    anything ending with dyne is an evil company

    ESPECIALLY SENSODYNE
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    Re: Auto-tune

    Post by NotRich on Tue Sep 15, 2009 12:11 pm

    Think of the TEEFS!

    There's actually a company called TECHNODYNE that create cryogenic storage containers. Google it!
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    Re: Auto-tune

    Post by Furious D on Tue Sep 15, 2009 1:59 pm

    Melodyne is purest evil
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    Re: Auto-tune

    Post by Parg on Tue Sep 15, 2009 4:05 pm

    Nah I was thinking more of Cyberdyne
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    Re: Auto-tune

    Post by Cap'n Lee on Tue Sep 15, 2009 4:33 pm

    that was obvious to everyone... except ricky

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